Today we have a truly eye opening and emotional topic to explore. The brain gut connection! If you, or a loved one, are dealing with depression, anxiety, mood, …
This isn't common knowledge though I
mean it's the first time I've heard that
depression could start in the gut
there's a direct connection between the
gut and the brain … when he started to get
sick he had um … it's challenging because
it wasn't textbook … you always have to
look at the gut!
you know Paige, in shifting gears a little bit …
shifting gears in a big way
another thing you said to me that I
found extremely interesting was that
that we actually have well we need to
understand that we have two brains one
you know our cranial brain and then we
have a brain in the gut in the and how
that relates in healing talk about that
and so the gut we call is the second
brain and what encompasses the gut is
it's found in the tissue lining of the
esophagus the stomach the small
intestines and the colon it contains
about a hundred million neurons which is
more than you find in the spine which is
pretty incredible, in the gut, in the gut, it
also has major neurotransmitters, most
people think that the neurotransmitters
are all up here but they're in the gut
as well so when somebody is having
depression or anxiety or some type of
mood that they think something's really
wrong right away they want to go see a
therapist or psychiatrist okay and it
gets focused in that area and what I'm
saying is you've got to start looking at
the gut if you start cleaning up the gut
you start cleaning up the brain when you
start cleaning out the gut you start to
not have as much depression if you start
cleaning out the gut the anxiety
doesn't happen as much so there's a
direct connection between the gut and
the brain and so many times we think the
brain is going to talk to the rest of
the body which it does but the gut
informs the brain so many times so it's
not just here it's here, it's here in the gut as
well this is in common knowledge though
I mean it's the first time I've heard
that actually depression could start in
the gut yeah and you know it's been my,
I mean that's huge, that it's been my
very personal experience that you know
with the clients and patients I
have and my husband because, you're going to get me crying,
who was sick for almost four years when he
started to get sick he had, he started
to not be able to remember people's
names he couldn't put sentences together he
became very very sick he was also
suicidal now I'm in the field of
behavior health, so thank goodness
but I also bring in the medical
component and work with you know the
integrative doctors because what was
happening to him was multiple things
were going on with him one of many was
that in his gut he had something called
leaky gut and it's like sebo its small
intestinal, I've heard a little bit about
that yeah and a lot of times what
happens is it interferes with normal
digestion and absorption and if you're
not absorbing your food you're not
getting nutrients and if you're not
getting nutrients oh it's not going to
the brain so you know for him when
there's damage of the stomach lining in
the small intestines that wreaks havoc
with the brain so when someone is going
through suicidal thoughts depression
anxiety you always have to look at the
gut because what's going on in the gut
maybe it is just the brain but from my
experience most of the time there's a
combination so gut is connected
connected to emotional wellness so
people think it's just the brain that's
connected to emotional wellness, and I'll
tell you something and I'll say this on
camera because I feel very strong about
this, when he first got really really ill
intuitively I knew something was going
on in the body I didn't know what it was
even though his sign showed depression, suicidal,
anxiety couldn't string sentences
together he couldn't even look at an
email he couldn't listen to we have a
water fountain in the backyard that was too loud
it was too much for him to take in and
he's just a die-hard a reader he
couldn't read a book any kind of
sensories so when that first started
I hopped in the car and this is when we
were living in Washington DC and I drove
them up to Johns Hopkins, Johns Hopkins
is top notch we went into the emergency
room and they basically said to us oh
well this looks like bipolar and I
looked at the doctor and I went I am in
the field this is not bipolar there's
something else going on this is what I'm
noticing and they still wanted to focus
just on the behavior health and that was
not what the issue was, so had I have
just accepted that yes it was this and
didn't have this other information and
didn't do the medical research, had you not
been his advocate, they you would have given
him medication for something for the
brain and what happens a lot of times is
the medication that you take for the
brain is going to mess up their gut,
now I don't disagree that there is a
space and a time and a place for each
individual to have medication for that
but for what happened to my husband and for
the many many patients and clients that
come see me when I start talking to them
about the gut asking questions what we
start to realize is oh my gosh let's
take a stronger look at your gut and I'm
passionate about this I'm sorry Silke,
I have to say this I'm passionate about
this because I've been in the field of
behavioral health for so many decades
and I work with the medical component
because you can't just listen and just
focus on here there's so much else that's
going on in here that needs to be
addressed. Well it's interesting you say
that I mean I just recently had an
experience where I went to the doctor my
gynecologist as I've been going to and
one of the things I really wanted in for
my fatigue and you know as we discussed
this is to get back on my B12 shot and
you know and she's looking at me like
I'm crazy like you know B12 you
don't need this, to do this and is this the
testing and that, she was ready to just
prescribe antidepressants like like that,
but something that is healthy and and it
would actually help you clear the
symptoms no, and I actually saw on my
bill that there was a that they did some
sort of mental health assessment, that's
a whole other story,
but that's what people go through that
just because you think that there's
something natural to do you're somehow
crazy we need to stop that sort of
thinking, that's why I teach people to
trust what's in here!
let me go back to your husband again for a minute because
I know that that was the very you know
impactful on your life of course, he
was at death's door three times can you
tell us little what happened? yeah so what
was so difficult was because he didn't
have a black and white type of disease
or illness, it's challenging because it
wasn't textbook so you know when you're
working full-time and back then I was
working two jobs had my own business and
I was the director of behavioral health
for a large international company so i
was working both of those and trying to
figure out you know what's going on
intuitively I knew this was not a mental
health issue so when you have to have
multiple or when you have to do a lot of
the medical research on your own and
figure out you know what's going on
there were multiple times when he was at
death's door stop and I didn't know if
he was going to make it the next day and
you know there were times too that he
would just you know rest his head in my
lap and say, am I ever going to get
better, so when you don't have all of the
information you know it's really hard to
keep going for somebody else but you do
it so, for when you're dealing with
someone
who has got a really difficult type of
disease and you don't have a lot of
support that's around you somebody's got
to be the advocate you know for what's
going on and I I believe that's why for me
everything that I've gone through in my
life that's why I'm here that's why I
want to get everything out to say okay
wait a minute I've experienced so much
I've seen it in my clients I've seen my
patients I've seen it in you know my
personal life that if I can bring
information that just gives you
something, I'm not a doctor but
if i can give you this information where
you go oh my gosh I'm hey that sounds
like me or that sounds like someone who
I know who I love who's sick right now
let's go check this out where do I go
who do I speak with, so I had a team I
had a team of different kind of
integrative holistic doctors and i also
had Western doctors as well because
there is a place and a space for both of
them to bring them together. Paige, I thank
you for for sharing that I knew I know
that was going to be a hard question
that I didn't mean that you know could
put you in the spot, I'm here because people
need to know what has gone on it so if
there's other people out there who are
experiencing it that's how we help each other,
and that's kind of you know
there are people out there there are
thousands of people out there that are
going through. you know
these kind of things, everyday, and
look at, look at how connected you are
and how many people you know and still
how difficult it is to find help, just
imagine what people who don't have your
resources what they're going through, I know
and you know i know we've been talking
about different things that you know we
can do to maybe get help get that
information out, tell us how do you help
people that are in that situation,
how do you work with them? well I can tell
you because we're hoping to reach so
many people to better their lives you
know I put together different trainings
different workshops curriculums
different ebooks that they can access to
learn more about this whether they want
it for their own health or for their
loved one that's sick or imagine this,
being proactive so they can you know
function not to function but thrive and
you know a big thing that I see is
especially as we get older people
survive with their symptoms and I'm
like, is there a reason why you think
you just have to survive with your
symptoms, you can actually thrive over 50,
things might you know hurt a little bit
more than when you were 25 but but you
know you can actually thrive with it, so
oh there's so many different things you
know that I can get out there that we
can do to get to people to help them, and
the message here too is and your
husband was a death's door three different
time but but he didn't go through it, I
know it not everybody, there is hope
there's there's there if you look
for it, and then hopefully you know by
getting this message out you can help we
can help them find some answers, yeah and
you know because I know that we're going
to get into that more Silke when we talk
about the caregiving so i'll save some
of that but i do want to say one thing
now but i might say the caregiving am a
knot will see this is what I tell my
clients my patients and this is how I live my
life, if you want to search for somebody
or something or a team healing team to
help you or a loved one put it on your
vision board put it out to the universe,
I am looking for someone who's specific
in this this this and this and that is
how things have always come to me,
because I'm connected to myself I'm
connected to what's going on this is
what I need and even, when i'm not sure
exactly because no one's ever one
hundred percent not even me, but even
when we know we need something you put
it out there i'm not sure exactly what I
need but I need something to help with
XYZ, it will show up that doesn't always
mean that the person that you love is
going to live … let's stop there …
… oh we're laughing, no Paige, that was that was
that was really really … this is just not
right you guys are having me cry …
was that Barbara Walters enough for you??

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